John_mac

1. Pennant 2. Momo 3. Torres

position with regards to buying out his contract in January should he and Rafa decide to wait to do bacon face's head in?

Ferguson said his first aim at United was to knock us off our perches. Kenny and Ferguson fell out over his failure to choose Hansen when he was Scotland manager, Kenny pulled out of the '86 World Cup squad. Kenny was appointed Liverpool Manager in May 85, Ferguson MAnc manager November 86.

wierd, totally wierd

1. Kuyt 2. Gerrard 3. Torres

The HJC is dedicating the Blackburn home game to raising funds to bring Michael Shields home from his Bulgarian cell. All monies spent on any items purchased in the HJC shop on the day will be donated to the 'Bring Michael Home' Appeal and a member of Michaels family will be in the shop on that day to show support and to thank those who have and continue to support their son and help clear the ever increasing debt that has been incurred by the Bulgarian Court It would be greatly appreciated if fans could call into the shop on the day and show support for the cause but if this is not possible you could donate to Michael's fund by sending a cheque to the HJC clearly marking that it is for the Michael Shields fund at: Hillsborough Justice Campaign PO Box 1089 178, Walton Breck Road Liverpool L69 4WR Alternatively details of how to make a direct donation can be found at: http://www.freemichaelshields.org/ The banner which the HJC has always operated under has always been 'Justice for all'. I cannot think of any case that more comes under this banner than the Michael Shields case, a day has been clearly designated to raise desperately needed funds for a Liverpool fan suffering from an incredible mis-carriage of justice. This miscarriage has happened whilst supporting Liverpool Footnall Club and, the committee of the HJC feel they should be doing everything that they can to bring Michael home. They are also looking for volunteers who can help with the organisation of fundraising on the day, so if you feel that you would like to help with this and can be available from 11am on the day of the game please get in touch with myself at jm001h2204@blueyonder.co.uk. If anyone does have any furtehr queries please do not hesitate to get in touch. Thanks

Found this from Rushie about the anniversary of the disaster, not new but still relevant: "Every year on the anniversary of the disaster, we have held a memorial service for the victims. The families than come to anfield to have tea and mingle with the players and staff. It is a poignant occassion, but even the small talk is about how Liverpool ae progressing, will they win this trophy or that one. Hillsborough is never mentioned. It is not that we want to forget about it. Nobody who was there will ever be able to do that, nor would they want to. But mere words seem so pointless. The fact that we are all there is the best proof that we still care." I have never thought of Rushie as articulate but he does appear to have captured the thoughts of many in relation to the memorial service in a couple of sentences.

The club consulted with the chairperson of the HFSG, which is different. To be honest I don't see that an individual person, or even an individual group is in a position to speak for everybody on this issue, I would feel far from comfortable doing this. Don't forget that the club stated that they had consulted with the HFSG on this issue right back in June, it was nly after disgust from fans that they actually acknowledged that there may be an issue, conveniently co-inciding with Sky's decision to screen the game.

Personally, i do not think that it is appropriate to play a game on the date of the anniversary. I travel to as many games as I possibly can but cannot see myself travelling to Ewood Park. The anniversary is a day of remembrance and a day to think about the injustices that have occured. I have attended all the services to date, each time I have attended with the friends that I went to Hillsborough with, and on each and every occassion it has been impossible not to be moved, a day when life is more important than football, more important than Liverpool Football Club. An Evertonian friend lost his cousin and his uncle on opposite sides of his family, I'll spend a bit of time talking to his mum. It really is as simple as that, to the Liverpool fans that I know, the 15th April is more important than football. A day that is more important than switching on Sky Sports news to see if there is any team news, jumping the train to find a pub and sing your nuts off, before going the game and singing about 'five times', all things that simply pale intoinsignificance. I don' think that a home game would be more appropriate, Anfield on the 15th April is not about football, Liverpool FC should not be. Anybody who remembers the lone voice at the service five or six years ago, spliff in hand, singing "You'll never walk alone", bearing his soul to those gathered around him, will know exactly what I am talking about.

I am, very sure. This was prior to the kick off time change. You have to remember that the Echo/ City are very much at the mercy of the football Club, it's how they sell their product. Without the support ofthe club they will struggle, you will rarely, if ever, see/ hear negative coverage of the football club in the local media.

Except that the club are playing Newcastle on Sunday then an FACup game on Tuesday, yrt would not be able to play a replay Tuesday and Blackburn Friday. Even stranger when you consider that they are currently scheduled to play Blackburn Saturday and Fulham Monday.................. nah, it just does not add up!

Mike I wouldn't be so stupid as to think that it would be, but it should be run with some consideration towards the fans. It only takes a quick look through this thread to see how degrading the club's decision i, look at people running around trying to find ways of getting from the service to Ewood, like a scene from Its a Mad, Mad world, and it certainly is that. What makes this even more galling is the oft quoted misconception that a major cause of the disaster was people turning up late. Take a look at your Blackburn tickets lads, there'll be something on there about getting in forty five minutes before the kick-off (think its their for safety reasons). Incesitive? It doesn't even come into it. Don't worry, we'll get another pot of Murdoch's money for compromising ourselves.

Kev, I know that I won't get any answers because unfortunately, they don't care. I have thought fora long time that allthat interests the club is money and this whole 'dirty' episode has done nothing but confirm this, I can't help but wonder how long the sky thing has been in the background and what is really going on? I was speaking to a Radio City reporter a couple of weeks ago who told me that he had spoken to Blackburn, who confirmed that they had no objection to plaing in Good Friday but that Liverpool had not approached them, the Premier League said they would only make a comment if a request was received to home club but Liverpool refused to even speak to him, it f%%%en stinks, truly does. I really hate the way the club get Phil Hammond to make a statement as though that speaks for every supporter. Yes, the man's opinions should be taken into consideration given his position but it is not a voice in isolation. The club appear more and more willing to run roughshod over fans, why did they not make any sort of stand over the kick off time at Portsmouth? Why have they refused to consider Good Friday? Have they objected to playing Newcastle Sunday and Birmingham Tuesday? No because it is money, simple as, it is ruling everything. The club cannot make commercial enterprise out of Hillsborough so the past five years has seen a concerted attempt to consign it to a box in the corner marked 'the past'. They love Rome 77 and Paris 81 because they can market it, market that part of our history. Well f*** them, Hillsborough is as an important part of our history as any European Cup, more important. The anniversary should be a day that means something, I know it does to me, it should not be a day which is overshadowed for most fans by a game of football, it is, to quote, it is far more important than that. It should be what stands Liverpool Football Club away from the rest, the unique bond between the club, the city and the people of the city, unfortunately the powers that be at the club, will never be able to understand that there are some things more important than competing financially with the superstore at the othr end of teh Lancs. That may very well be the case, but Liverpool Football Club still have a responsbility to act in a befitting manner. There has never been a game played at Hillsborough on the anniversary and each year since the disaster grops have fans have travelled to Sheffield to lay flowers before returning to Anfield for the service. Would there be a game at Hillsborough had it been Sheffield Wednesday fans who had lost their lives? I doubt it. Do our club accept us as second class citizens? That is the question

Twelve Simple Questions An open letter to the supporters of Liverpool Football Club: 1. Why are Liverpool Football Club playing a football match on 15th April 2006, the seventeenth anniversary of the Hillsborough Disaster? 2. Why did Liverpool FC not inform the Premier League that they would be unwilling to play on this date prior to the fixture program being released? 3. Why did Liverpool FC not apply to the Premier League and ask them for permission to rearrange the fixture? 4. Why did Blackburn not receive any correspondence from Liverpool about rearranging the fixture until very recently? It was farcical to see that Blackburn were willing to rearrange but had not received a request from Liverpool. Had Sky television chosen to screen the fixture live on good Friday would the club have then accepted a rearranged date? 5. Is Sky Television?s money more important to hierarchy at Liverpool Football Club than Hillsborough? 6. Why has the Chief Executive of Liverpool Football Club not responded to the numerous letters he has received on this issue? 7. Bradford City Football Club have come out and publicly announced that they will never play on the 11th May, the date that marks the anniversary of the Bradford Fire. Why have Liverpool FCN never shown the same respect for the memory of the victims of Hillsborough that Bradford have? 8. Neither Blackburn nor the Premier League have any objections the game being rearranged to Good Friday, why do Liverpool? 9. Why has the club chosen a half-hearted compromise to a situation which requires a clear and concise statement from the club a statement that requires no further clarification: ?Out of respect for the victims of the Hillsborough Disaster Liverpool Football Club will never again play on 15th April, the date that marks the anniversary of the disaster.? 10. Why did it take the football club seven months to make a decision to even query the time and date of the fixture? 11. Have the club even written to Sheffield Wednesday FC to question the wisdom of playing a football match at the Hillsborough stadium at 3pm on 15th April 2006? 12. The 15th April is a day that many Liverpool fans will never ever forget and they should be allowed to pay their respects to the victims of Hillsborough on this date. Many, many Liverpool fans feel that this date is sacrosanct in the calendar, why do the hierarchy of Liverpool Football Club not appreciate this and why have they chosen to play a fixture which could easily have been accommodated elsewhere in the calendar on 15th April 2006?

Is anybody not in the least a little bit disgusted that the club are even considering playing on the date of the anniversary? I am nothing short of amazed.