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was hoping for a better performance after saturday but at least were through and have a decent chance of topping the group

darby might start http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,1...4499527,00.html

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i heard that arbeloa song at the derby game

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yep that sounds right! thought the mascherano seven nation army was class

there was one on sat with steve finnan were always winnin out on the right, cuts back in again with stevie finnan, were always winnin

chris perry is probably still wondering how litmanen got around him that day against spurs! cant find it on youtube

Parry: Reds ready to spend again Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry has revealed the club's summer spending may not be over just yet. Parry has spoken of his satisfaction at Liverpool's pre-season in terms of transfers and insists they will always be in the market for quality players. "There's always a lot expectation but there's definitely a special buzz about the upcoming season. We're all excited with the new signings we've made and genuinely happy with what we've done," he told the club's official website. "It was important to get them in as early as possible so that Rafa could have more time working with them. Bringing players in on the last day of the transfer window is never ideal. It was good for our new players to have been involved in the training camp out in Switzerland and then in Hong Kong. "That doesn't mean to say we'll now be standing still. A lot of clubs have spent significant amounts of money this summer, like Manchester United, Tottenham and Chelsea. "Then there's a number of other clubs who've recently also had new investors, such as Newcastle, and there's still a long way to go before the end of the transfer window. "If a player becomes available and he's the right player for this club then yes we will be interested."

good choice, I lived just beside their stadium for a few months - really good set of fans, haven't won anything in a long time but they still sell out every game - if they could only get rid of that curse!

you can call them up and change the card with them or they told me if i paid 5 euro extra i could get it on another box i subscribed online on setanta.com but im a sky digital customer, I got all the channels Celtic tv nasn etc and will have Liverpool tv in september

Zenden to Marseille http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=4...t+for+Marseille

if we were offering garcia and money and they wanted more does that mean were offering garcia, cisse and money as garcia is worth more than cisse

the echo now says he was called as he was first chief exec of the premier league does seems strange that they dont get the current one, maybe because parry was there when the rules were established Echo

i read this morning the reason parry was there is because he was the first chief executive of the premier league. he was questioned about premier league rules not about the mascherano deal

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Cheap shot from a cowardly crew 5th June 2007 Des Kelly The Daily Mail Hand me a felt pen. If UEFA want to tag Liverpool fans as the worst in Europe then it is only right they should be rewarded for this lazy insult with a cheap label of their own. And here it is: "The biggest cowards in football." See how easy it is to throw insults around? Stung by criticism of the ticketing arrangements and chaotic crowd control at the Champions League Final in Athens, Michel Platini's administration has proved to be astonishingly unstatesmanlike with its response. Rather than examine the problems like a sensible governing body should, UEFA decided to stamp their feet, squeal "it's so unfair!" and trot out deliberately sensationalist claptrap to try to divert attention elsewhere. The communications director of European football, William Gaillard, actually said this about the followers of Liverpool: "What other set of fans steal tickets from their fellow supporters or out of the hands of children?" Dunno William. But a few, I'd guess. Even if a couple of kids did have their tickets robbed on the night, let's compare this sensationalist, unsubstantiated and, frankly, silly accusation with some of the crimes that have been perpetrated by the followers of a few other teams across Europe recently. I'm thinking specifically about the murder of a policeman at an Italian stadium when a homemade bomb blew up in his face. Then there was the French gendarme almost killed by German thugs. The routine and quite blatant racism at some Spanish and Eastern European grounds, a blight that UEFA have feebly failed to tackle. The tendency of the Roman riot squad to beat visiting supporters senseless for no obvious reason. The attack on a referee in Denmark this week. I could go on. When judged against that pile of paperwork sitting in UEFA's file marked "Trouble", I'd say snatching a ticket from some nipper might rank as a relatively minor offence. But Gaillard appears peculiarly keen to hype up any English problem. He adds: "There have been 25 incidents involving Liverpool fans away from home since 2003 and these are in the report. Most teams' supporters do not cause any trouble at all." This is an interesting claim. William has obviously never tried to slip away from a Lazio game while trying to avoid the inconvenience of a sharp blade in the buttock. Nor can he have danced through the streets of Marseilles as residents added a splash of local colour by throwing bottles. But what about those 25 incidents said by UEFA to involve Liverpool over the past four years? We await the details. English football will have the chance to verify the substance of these charges when the "undercover report" is handed to Sports Minister Richard Caborn today. If many prove to be as minor as his ticket- snatching accusation then Gaillard had better look out. His job is in jeopardy, or at least it should be. Particularly as he made this rather contradictory pronouncement before the Champions League Final: "The two groups of supporters have a tradition of good behaviour and at this point we are expecting that to continue." A tradition of good behaviour or the worst in Europe? He just can't make his mind up. Perhaps William is just overwrought and in need of a lie down in a darkened room. For 20 years or so. Let me make one thing clear. Nobody in their right mind doubts Liverpool fans were partly to blame for the disturbances in Athens. Too many turned up without tickets, some tried to bribe, fake, cheat and steal their way into the ground, even if it meant that a fellow supporter would lose their own legitimate place. Sadly, like all big clubs, Liverpool has its fair share of scumbags. It also has more than its reasonable quota of people who believe it is their divine right to see the game by whatever means possible. This is not a new phenomenon. As the crowds hustled towards the old Wembley 18 years ago, I watched one ticketless Liverpool fan vault over the barrier and make a run for it. Three more were busy scrambling up the outside wall, attempting to break in through the stairwell above. I vividly remember these scenes even now for one particular reason. It happened at the FA Cup Final on Saturday, May 20, 1989. Thirty five days after Hillsborough. With the emotional wounds of that day still horribly raw for so many people, it seemed inconceivable to me that a few would be so selfish when Merseyside was gathering to offer its respects. I was amazed at their stupidity, their insensitivity. But it would have been ridiculous and lazy to talk about "Liverpool fans shaming the club". It was one knot of irresponsible idiots, cretins who were completely unrepresentative of the mood of the city. Yet, spin forward nearly two decades and UEFA believe they are justified in using the same kind of warped logic to damn an entire club. Why? Because they must know they are at least as culpable for the problems and want to shift the blame. UEFA's distribution of the tickets was woefully inadequate, creating an unprecedented demand. The stadium itself was ill-equipped to handle such a high-profile event - it had no turnstiles for starters. The policing and security was said by most observers to be haphazard at best, panicked and belligerent at worst. In this kind of environment, no wonder chaos reigned; no wonder fans with tickets found they were excluded; no wonder some cheats tried to exploit this lack of order. Milan didn't even sell their ticket allocation. Just imagine the scenario if two English clubs had made the final and Manchester United had played Liverpool instead? Cheap as they were, the effects of Gaillard's remarks are potentially catastrophic. With one sloppy, stupid statement he has increased the temperature right across Europe. Supporters from Liverpool or any other English club travelling abroad can now expect to be met by an even greater level of hostility, to be herded and detained like cattle, baton-charged, penned in and locked in their coaches or trains. Good or bad, it doesn't matter. Liverpool fans are "the worst". English fans are the "worst". So they 'deserve' what they get. Sometimes it's true. But not always and UEFA are spineless if they hide behind insults instead of dealing with the real issues.

dad's going in with their son's getting stuff thrown at them and loads of abuse 'over for a jolly' and 'f**kin irish c***ts' shouting this at kids and that was some of the milder stuff they were saying

amazing.. best player on the field on wednesday

still in athens i have to say i was shocked at some of our fans and what i have heard from people staying the same place as me someone mentioned communication was a problem, i have stopped loads of police to ask them questions, directions etc all week and all of them could understand me and give the info i wanted there were thousands just intent on getting in whatever it took, mostly young people around my age (20 -30) i was syntagma sq on tuesday and it was one of the best experiences of my life but i was told many times that there would be a few thousand fake tickets coming over from liverpool the next day - there would be a guy selling them for 50 euro i went to the ground around 3pm an i was gonna wait around to see if i could get a ticket after kick off for around face value but i got the impression something was gonna happen so i left and headed to sytagma talked to some people who were outside until kickoff a girl told me she saw over 20 at uefa complaints booth giving them their ticket numbers of their tickets that had been stolen as they walked thru the turnstiles talked to people who thought we could have had another hillsborough/heysel on our hands, they were so scared for their lives when the liverpool fans just ran at the gates

fly out on saturday for a week i n zante. getting the bus/boat to athens on monday and come back thursday

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can anyone scan a ticket or even the letter from uefa to the ballot winners and send it to paddybutler@gmail.com been offered some but i dont know aout buying off the net. at least if its off someone over there I can check it out first