I think the 'title' came from the finance/value side of things although now that's not even true. Although some would have it that they have a biger fan base. They will always be the second when it comes to trophy haul and real footballing success. Interesting that when you travel you mention you are from Liverpool people say either 'great football club' or 'the Beatles' - you mention Man U and you used to hear 'Oh Beckham' and now 'oh Rooney' - it's always about individuals rather than the club.