Woodsyla

f*** off Purslow

He's got the same disease that Murphy has got, and inflated opinion of the ability of players in this country. He's not alone though as we will find out once again this summer when we get dumped out of another tournament with out second rate team. We might be able to have a cosy and a bit of a chat, but these British players playing for a British manager have done f***all compared to those foreign players playing for the foreign managers we had before. I'm tired of Carra now. I hope Kenny stands down after winning the FA Cup, Rafa gets hired and he does to Carra waht he did to Murphy. Hire a much much better player in his positon and offer him the choice of staying if he wants. Buy BRITISH. f*** right off

Good strikers score goals, we are short of goals, to me, it's a no brainer that with the solid defence we had for the first 3 months of the season a genuine goal threat would have made us much more competitive.

I wouldn't, they are about to lose the thing that does the most to paper over the cracks. When Van Persie leaves, and he will, Arsenal are going to go a long way backwards before they go forwards again. We've got a lot of problems but thankfully losing our talismanic captain and main goal scorer isn't one of them. He's score 40% of Arsenal's goals this season.

Very true but United have won league championships whilst papering over cracks. We had a very solid defence and an inability to convert chances. Solve the latter and the former becomes a solid basis for a successful season.

Fine, you say tomayto, I say tomahto. It still doesn't detract from the entirely valid point that if we had Van Persie we would be where Arsenal are. We are not a train wreck, we are a side with no finishing capabilities that has run out of steam.

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My favourite "Relive one of the most exciting times to be an Everton fan in recent memory, the trip to the ground before the Champions League defeat at home to Villerreal"

Carroll has to start this one doesn't he, surely he's going to turn up against these.

I really hope so, a summer swoop for Llorente and Martinez would put a smile back on most peoples faces.

Yep, you've got to think that if the keeper guesses right and saves a couple, when you step up the pressure has just gone up a few notches. Not that surprising to find that Rafa has this level of detail in his locker.

Arsenal were awful at the start of the season, truly shocking, couldn't buy a result, the sharks were circling around Wenger, Van Persie finds his shooting boots and they start to climb the table, get a bit of confidence and play some good football and now RVP can't miss. By contrast we started well, were battering teams at home, creating a truckful of chances but not putting teams away. By contrast our away form was majestic. As the season has worn on the away form has dipped, so the onus has transferred back onto the home form, the team has stopped performing. Had we had an Ian Rush as Cobs mentioned we would probably have been in the top 2 at Christmas and this alarming slump would see us in a battle for 4th. Looking at the season as a whole we would be having a similar season to Spurs. Flattering to deceive in a title sense but a worthy contender for 4th.

That description reminds me of Lucas age 21. Lots of running into space, lots of effort and endeavour but never actually wanting the ball and getting shut of it as soon as he could.

Compare that with Arsenal and you'll see the issue. They too have struggled at times this season but Van f***ing Persie bails them out of a hole by taking the only tow sniffs at goal he gets. One word - Arsenal 61 league goals scored Van Persie 26 goals, next highest is Walcott with 6 Replace Carroll's goals scored with Van Persie's ...

He'll do for me, shown glimpses of talent but by and large 'safe' is a pretty good description. Ineffective really, needs to push himself more.

Don't try and defend my argument with your b******s. We are not a new side, this team has been together for 6 months. Teething troubles dont explain 8pts from 11 games.

If you are a team that can't score (cough Arsenal) but you have a striker who is scoring a goal a game then it seems to mask all the other issues. Had we started with Suarez and Van Persie against Arsenal we would have been 6-0 up at half time. Our finishing is diabolical, and yes, if you don't win games, heads can drop. Your theory doesn't explain the fact that we can beat Everton 3-0 one week and then lose to Wigan the next. We need a top class striker, we get one, then we don't draw/lose as many games and heads don't drop. It isn't the only issue we have but it is, at the moment, by far the biggest. Suarez is not a finisher, we desperately need one to play with him.

b******s, 8pts since the New Year, you saw this coming? There were problems before the slump, but mostly they were to do with a cutting edge. Arsenal are shambolic defensively, have a lightweight centre midfield a couple of decent wingers and yet they are nearly 20pts better off than since Xmas. You saw THAT did you from our early season form? You saw that when we piled into them at Anfield and squandered chance after chance after chance. It's simple, we've lost our way, turned into a cup team, and the players don't seem to have the stomach for the league games any more. I have no idea why that is, it's most un-Liverpool, but Nostradamus wouldn't have seen this coming.

The only problem with that theory is that the fans would have made off with all the money long before the players got on the pitch.

If you don't fire Benitez you can't hire Hodgson, therefore sacking Rafa is directly linked to hiring Hodgson. With that in mind it does seem like the biggest mistake of the last 20 years.

Not stealing £30m a year from the club to pay off loans buys them a bit of grace in my book. If they invest every penny generated by the club back into the club I will be a happy man. The stadium is tricky, that money has to come from somewhere but it doesn't look like it will be the owners pockets. Massive sponsership a la the shirt deal seems the way forward.

That if you stick by a top manager he will succeed. What is a logical tautology is that if you don't stick by a great manager when you hit a sticky patch you wont succeed. See Chelsea and ourselves as the most recent examples. Both sacked a manager before his time to go, both have had a period where we have not achieved the standards set by the previous manager. Talk of sacking Kenny is heresey. Doing it after he has had 14 months at the helm is lunacy.

Ferguson was desperate to sign Alonso, we stole him from under Real Madrid's nose. He was the most sought after young midfielder in Europe. We only got him because Real were trying to prise Vieira from Arsenal and took their eye off the ball. Ahem http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/2955466.stm

It may be just semantics but this is wrong. Ferguson WAS a great manager who won nothing for 7 years, he'd already proved that at Aberdeen. Great managers don't always succeed. Kenny is a great manager as he has demonstrated, particularly IMO, at Blackburn. We have a great manager, we should give him more than 14 months.

Nowadays he'd be sacked after his 3rd season, taking a team from 2nd to 7th gets you the chop nowadays.